The Elusive Perfect Comeback
We were talking about dialogue a little while ago, and how effective it has to be in books, and this morning, I tripped across an email on one of my loops about the never-ending battle of how romance readers/writers respond to the snarky comments we often receive from others who think romance novels and romance readers are silly, etc. I gave up worrying about that a while ago. My niece is a lawyer, and we all know what abuse lawyers take. I mean, are there any real jokes about romance writers? The poor lawyers and dentists really get socked. So, I don't feel so bad. And anyone who reads/watches anything, the sci-fi readers, the fantasy readers, etc, everyone gets picked on for something, so I don't worry much about defending my choices or my profession anymore. (I just ask them what they read and then mock theirs, LOL. . .no, not really. Even I am not that immature...)
Wait... where was I? (It's that kind of morning...). Oh, dialogue. Right. The thing about dialogue I realized, though is that it's part of the fantasy of a book, the same way beautiful people, beautiful clothes, incredible locations, perfect, sex, and heroes are.
This is a fantasy because how many times do we ever think of saying just the right thing at just the right moment? If you're like me, you usually think of the thing you *should* have said five minutes, or five days, later. Yet again, it reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where George comes up with the perfect comeback ("The jerk store called...."), and lays in wait to use it, only for it to blow up in his face.
In books, we can revise, sculpt, and play with language until we manage that witty banter that makes characters seem so clever and quick, but of course it took several days and tries to get that line just right. My favorite recently has been Richelle Mead's character Georgina Kincaid, who struggles through her life as a succubus working in a bookstore (wonderful series) but also, one of my very favorite things about TV series like Buffy and Veronica Mars is their dialogue -- the retorts and exchanges are rapidfire and perfect. It doesn't get much better than the back and forth between Veronica and her father, both detectives who play off each other perfectly. On TV and in books, the perfect comeback is always at hand.
I love books where the lead character thinks clever thoughts, makes insightful observations about the world, and comes up with the perfect quip or comeback in a conversation. I love writing those moments, too, though there have been precious few of them in my own daily life.
In real life, I can't think of the last time I had the perfect thing to say at the perfect moment, though I know I also tend to quip and play with language, and I like to make people laugh. I have had one I've been working on, revising and preparing for the perfect moment -- I want to be prepared, like George Costanza, though my big moment hasn't arrived. There is a woman who walks her dogs where I do, and she is so overtly bitchy -- literally nose up in the air, and if you say hi, she just keeps walking. Most people on the trail are friendly, and we all know each other and our dogs, and exchange those looks of parents with precocious children when the dogs act up. Not this lady, in her skin-tight capris and little tee-shirt and glammy sunglasses.
One of my dogs doesn't like her dog much (go figure) and I think that's the source of it. When the pooches acted up, and I give her the "here they go again" look and say hi, she just keeps walking, looking pissed off. So, my imaginary conversation, the one that I would have written, went something like this:
"Hi, she's full of it today, I guess," I say, in the friendly manner of dog owners everywhere.
"You shouldn't have an unfriendly dog on the trail," she says haughtily through her pursed, tight little lips.
I level her the look, and draw in a breath, delivering my line with perfect timing: "Why not? They allow unfriendly people here, apparently."
Okay, so it's not brilliant, and I'll probably never get a chance to use it, but want to be prepared, just in case. When was the last time you had the perfect comeback, or wished you did? What's the perfect comeback you came up with five minutes later, or the one you wait to use? Or, what's your favorite dialogue moment in a book?


















I spend a lot of time
I spend a lot of time crafting responses to imaginary conversations, lol!!! And I have been able to use them on occasion. Mostly I just keep my mouth shut, though, because I don't like to engage someone who's ticking me off.
But in fiction...oh, it's so great, isn't it? To say what you'd say if you could?
I'm so glad I'm a writer!!!
M
Good point...
It's true, it takes energy to engage with these folks -- energy better spent elsewhere. But sometimes...
On my walk today, I didn't see her, but already revised the line to "Why not? Apparently she's not the only bitch on the trail..." LOL
Of course, among fantasy speeches/dialogue, the Oscar speech and in our case, the RITA speech is fantasy material, too...
I'm off for the day until tonight, but wanted to sneak in and pop out a few quick replies... will catch up later... promise!
Sam
haha love it!!!
haha love it!!!
Big smile here...
I love crafting dialogue, going for just the right timing and tags to make the conversation flow well. I'm a bit of a smart mouth in real life, though, so I've been on the other end of this, when I've said exactly the right thing and watched someone recoil. I'm working on keeping my mouth shut.
I think Janet Evanovich does dialogue really well, especially in the earlier Plum books. Without caffeine, I can't think of anything else, though!
Margaret
Hey there
SP is wonderful in early books, though I think there's always the danger of clever becoming simply shallow if a character doesn't change or grow, or have more attached to the wit, you know?
I can keep my mouth shut sometimes, but it's a challenge... LOL
S
Oh I got a kick out of this post...
My family are all pretty witty folks, but when we were kids, my older sister was a bully who was fast on the draw, so I'm constantly regretting my bad comeback lines. Course, it's always easy to get the 5 year old, lol. So, zingers are part of our average day.
I gotta admit, though, I have to be careful. 1) My mouth gets way ahead of my brain and 2) sometimes I go straight for the jugular and really hurt people. So, I have to bite my tongue a lot.
On the other hand, during big fights...man, I spend YEARS thinking about what I should have said, even if I do get to work in what my planned comeback would be. I hate how many times I think, "God, that sounded better in my head!" Uh oh...doing it now. Dangit!
It's true...
It's a family trait with us, too... all in good humor, rarely does anyone get hurt, certainly not physically, LOL.
But there is something to making sure the person you're zinging isn't going to punch you out, LOL.
I hate when it sounds better in my head... it's such a letdown when it falls flat, LOL.
Off for the afternoon, but I'll be back...
S
I'm actually good at coming
I'm actually good at coming up with the perfect comeback. Just a gift, I guess. Sam, I like yours. There was once a woman who refused to be friendly with me at school. I thought she was a super-bitch. Turned out she was super shy, even though she looked totally self assured and always dressed on the cutting edge of fashion. We're friends now--it just took about five years. Lesson learned.
True...
But I'm sure the woman on the trail is just bitchy... LOL I'm glad yours worked out for the better, though...
That you are quick-witted is no surprise to me. :)
Sam
I have to admit, that's one
I have to admit, that's one of the few times that a super bitch turned out not to be a super bitch. I certainly hope you get your chance for your comeback. Of course, Trail SB will wonder what YOUR problem is, because that's the way those kind of people are.
Sam, what a funny post!! I
Sam, what a funny post!! I am so lame when it comes to thinking fast on my feet. My husband, on the other hand, excels at this, and has more snappy come-backs...I'm always saying, "Damn! Why didn't I think of that?"
When my oldest daughter was in the second grade, there was a bully-girl on the bus, who was several years older than her and liked to try and intimidate her. One day, Bully-Girl came down the aisle and said to little 7-year old Caitlin, "I have my eye on you. You're a sitting duck!"
Caitlin, having no idea what she was talking about, replied, "Well, you're a leaping lamb!" I think Bully-Girl was surprised, because she started laughing, and after that she became Caitlin's good buddy, even walking her to her class each morning. Seven years later, and this girl is now at a different school, but still drops by to say hi to Caitlin, and we still laugh about the leaping lamb.
What a great story.
What a great story, Karen! I love happy endings, lol.
At least she said Lamb!
I was thinking Leaping Lizard. LOL But it is nice that she managed to turn a negative into a positive.
Sam
Hi Sam
Hi Sam, I'm sorry I've been gone for so long. Lately, I've had quite a bit to do, and not enough time to do it. I really miss all of you and I promise to stop by more often.
I love your post. It made me think of a comeback that I said to a very nasty man a few years ago. It usually takes a lot to get me mad enough to talk back to someone but, this guy thought he had the right to call everybody he met an A--hole.
One day I heard him call an elderly lady that name for no reason. I had enough of this jerk so, I said in a very loud voice, " It's better to be an A--hole than the s--t that comes out of it". As you can well imagine, the whole place laughed out loud, and the man was speechless. I have no idea where that line came from. It just seemed to pop out of my mouth.
I don't think I've ever come up with anything better than that line but, I'm sure if I get mad enough that I'll come up with a few more good lines. I don't like mean people or bullies.
Have a great weekend Sam and enjoy this nice weather.
Hugs, Mads:)
combacks
Hail to the Redskins!
My dd is great with them, very witty. Especially as a child. Now as I teen, I tell her to watch it or she'll be looking for her own ride to the mall. I have to admit its funny. Once, she was on the verge of a meltdown (she was about 4yrs) and my dh said "don't have a cow man". She said "I don't have a cow man, I have a cat and a dog" We just started laughing.
I also think of a lot of comebacks after the fact. When Wayne was in the Navy, I compared a vist to his family like a female exam, a yearly endurance. Unfortantely, being a man, he was clueless. Now I live near them, and wish they were a yearly endurance.
Thats what I love about books, the characters always have the perfect comebacks. I just don't appreciate what you all go through to get the characters to have the perfect comebacks. IRL, we don't get to go back and re-write the scenes.
DD is finishing the school production of Okholoma and she says she wishes life could be like a musical, people just breaking out into song on a moments notice, and everyone in the stores breaking out into dance. Kinda would be fun, huh? Well, except for those of us who can't sing or dance....
Teresa
Nice to see you! Love seeing my old friends around here. :)
LOL on the family visit... I know... wouldn't it be nice if we could revise a lot of the stuff that doesn't come out right in life?
Do you watch Buffy? One of my favorite epis is Once More With Feeling, which is exactly what you describe -- it's their musical episode, where everyone is spontaneously singing and dancing though they don't understand why -- it's a great show.
Sam
Buffy
The first time I saw that episode it didn't do much for me, but later I thought it was great. It took watching it in context with the overall story line from that season. I pretty much caught most of the series on FX reruns, which are now only on Sat and Sun mornings, darn that station! I used to exercise to that show.
I digress...
I do wish I could claim to be witty or funny, but I'm pretty boring all in all. And I seem to never have the right thing to say when I need it -- always think later, "I should have said ....." That's why I prefer written communication, email specifically, because I can take the time to think about what I'm saying and correct my grammar.
Oh Mads...
That's a really good one! Maybe the best ones are the ones that just pop off our lips like that, rather than the ones we think of later, or ahead of time. :)
It's good to see you! This weather is amazing, isn't it???
Sam
ah, the perfect comeback
I think it's better left to fiction. I have fired off a quick one a time or two, and I curbed myself of the tendency because those are real people with real feelings. Even if I think he/she had it coming, it's still probably best left unsaid.