Welcome Guest Blogger Literary Agent Natasha Kern!

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Sam here, popping in to introduce Natasha, since she is my agent, and I'm thrilled to have her stopping by today. Natasha has been a big influence on my writing in the first year I've worked with her, and contrary to other experience I've had, she's a warm and generous person who puts so much energy into her work, that she inspires the people around her to do to the same.

On a more formal note, Natasha has 24 years of experience in the publishing industry, working as an agent for 21 years. Before founding her own agency in 1986, she worked as an editor and publicist for New York publishers (Simon & Schuster, Bantam and Ballantine). Natasha has personally sold more than 700 books as an agent and worked on close to 1,000 books during her career in publishing. She represents several NY Times best selling writers and many writers who have made the USA Today list as well as winners of many notable publishing awards, including: the Edgar Award, the RITA award, the Silver Dagger Award, the Christy Award, the Hurston/Wright Award, and a Pulitzer Prize finalist. The agency was rated 11th by Writer's Digest in the top twenty five agencies for new writers, and #2 among the top sellers on Publisher's Marketplace.

On to the interview - Natasha has answered some questions I collected over the last few months, but feel free to ask new questions, or just comment and say hello. :) Natasha will stop by as she can during the day, so enjoy!

Thanks, Natasha, for coming by to do this interview and chat with us, because I know you're a busy, busy lady!

Why did you become an agent? Originally, when I left New York, I did editing and worked developing proposals for other agents. When they failed to sell something I really liked, I was sure I could do it—I sold 28 books that first year and knew I had made the right choice. Agenting is a calling for me and there is nothing that better suits my temperament and talents. This isn’t a matter of preference or personal taste alone, but of knowing what is right for me and where I should invest my life energy—of the gifts I have been given that I want to give back.

What’s your favorite part of your work? What’s the most interesting thing about being an agent? I like pretty much all of it except some of the necessary business things like working with my accountant on taxes or hassling publishers about payments we haven’t received. I love discovering new voices—I’m reading something now from an unpublished writer that is simply electrifying. I love working with clients and their editors collaboratively to build a writer’s career. Helping clients to find their voice and direction, working on marketing plans, and all the other dozens of things agents do. Believe me there is never a dull moment at the agent with constant emergencies, urgencies, deals going through, auctions, new book babies arriving, waiting for early reviews and reading, reading, reading. Did I mention all the emails every day?

You represent a lot of different kinds of books! Do you read all author submissions yourself or do you use freelance readers? I can’t imagine an agent sending out a submission she has not read! I think the sense of championship, enthusiasm and the ability to get editors interested resides in the agent’s connection with a writers work. A reader’s report can’t do that. I do have a broad list and it is another wonderful thing that I can work on anything that I am personally excited about. In general, though, there is a strong emphasis on women’s fiction and subjects related to body, mind and spirit from health to narrative nonfiction or memoir. I’m not opposed to readers screening material but I generally know right away if it is a match. OK, this isn’t really how it works. Of course I want wonderful writing and storytelling. But what really happens is the author knows that I am the right agent for her and I know that her work is right for me--often before we even meet or when I have read a few pages of the submission. Then when I stay up all night reading it and can’t put it down and it really makes me laugh, cry, turn the pages and feel inspired I absolutely know it is right for me—sometimes because I know what is needed to take it to the next level to launch her career. I want that connection a reader can’t give me.

A lot of category authors don’t have agents, and a lot of agents aren’t taking on category authors – can you explain why? Do you have to be writing a mainstream book to get a good agent? This isn’t the right question. Category authors may not need an agent. There should be a compelling reason to pay the 15% commission, especially since Harlequin contracts have limited areas that are negotiable. Writing for several lines and growing a career that extends outside of category can be tricky and definitely require help. It isn’t a matter that you have to be writing a mainstream book but that if you aren’t and have a great relationship with editors at a particular line, that may be ideal—and authors who are not writing for category lines do need an agent.

When you disagree with what an agent wants to do with your story, should you do it just because she says so, refuse (politely with reason) to do it, or find a new agent because this one isn't jiving with you? It depends. First of all, it is the agent’s job to “midwife” the work of the writer. After all, very few agents are writers, although many of us are good editors. If an agent doesn’t want to send out a ms. or proposal, the author should be clear on why. If it is a matter of personal taste, then yes the agent should decline and suggest getting another agent or even recommend one. It is not uncommon to part ways when a writer goes off in a direction the agent doesn’t want to follow and our lists change over time too and our interests. However, there shouldn’t be this arbitrary sense that the author is being required to revise just for the sake of the market or a vague reason. Generally, it is clear what the problems are and, frankly, I am almost never wrong about this and would not want to send out something prematurely because it could kill that writers career. This isn’t a matter of opinion.

Will an agent really increase your change of selling? Yes, of course!! Aside, from getting a totally different contract than you could on your own. I’ve been working with publishers for years and the boilerplates evolve as they are improved over time working with their attorneys.

Are you taking on new writers? Do you only take previously published writers or are you open to unpublished writers as well? Yes. And no, I don’t only accept previously published writers. I am very busy and have a full list but like everyone in this industry I LIVE to fall in love with something new and get excited about it. I have sold books by several first time authors in the past year (Joyce Lebra’s The Scent of Sake to Harper; Sarah Shupe’s Destiny Bay to Dorchester; Sherry Jones Jewel of Medina to Ballantine; Malena Lott’s Dating Davinci to Sourcebooks, and others).

Are you very hands on, ie, do you edit? Or are you more just on the business end of things? I don’t line edit but I do get involved in shaping a work. Those mentioned above are good examples. They all needed considerable editorial work when I decided to represent them and with my direction some worked with outside editors to have a very polished ms. for submission with one a pre-empt and another sold at auction. I can’t help thinking editorially – I’m contemplating what needs to be improved about the ms. I am currently reading by a new author who lives in New York City.

I am involved from conceptualization in many cases. A client may send me a list of books she has wanted to write and I will consider what order would be best for her career or how to shift from one genre to another. It may be an issue of what is more salable, but also what best fits her voice and style or long term vision. This also refers, of course, to the nonfiction works I represent and how the ideas can be shaped into a salable book. I think all good agents are involved of necessity in much more than just getting a sale. I usually talk with each client to find out what her hopes and dreams or her worries too. No one writes in a vacuum and career plans have to take into consideration the writer's personal life and how prolific she is, what her other obligations are, how her financial situation will be affected, if it is realistic to quit her day job, and so on. I do sometimes provide editorial feedback, particularly if a writer is changing her career in a major way like shifting from adult novels to young adult or romance to thrillers or if she is having some problems with her in-house editor. There is such a broad range of situations and the needs of each client are so individual, it is hard to detail all the ways in which I may be involved in career development, editing and shepherding books into print aside from contracts, rights sales and so many other things. We are very active in foreign rights and film sales.

What’s the most important question for an author to ask an agent before signing? An author should ask about everything! She should understand her contract with the agency and any fees and commissions involved, how rights are allocated or sold, and how to interact with the agent. To facilitate this, I send a package to new clients that includes a list of WHEN TO CONTACT ME because a lot of new writers don’t realize I should see covers or blurbs to ensure all is going well. We also provide a lot of information about how to work with the agency and what to expect as well as a questionnaire to help me in presenting the author to editors and publishers. I know they might not know the right questions to ask so I try to ensure that all bases are covered rather than hoping they will ask the right ones.

Some agents and editors have made the switch to being writers – do you see yourself ever writing a book? I suppose there is an outside possibility of this. I don’t know how they manage to have the time to do this and I’ve never felt a ‘calling’ to do so. An editor at a publishing house whom I admire recently suggested I consider writing something on a particular nonfiction subject and for the first time I thought she might be right about this-- but I don’t think it is going to happen any time soon. I have considered writing a blog and then decided that while it might be of value to the writing community, there is a lot of info and opinion out there now and I’m not sure it would be of value to my clients.

What’s the most important thing a writer should consider when choosing an agent? Have you ever declined to represent someone because you felt the “fit” just wasn’t right? Yes, of course I have declined something I knew was well written and could sell but wasn’t a good match for me (this morning actually).

What was your favorite Christmas present? ;) I had some truly wonderful presents this year. One of my favorites was a donation to an organization that provides microloans to women in third world countries who then can repay the loan so you can do it again! Another client contributed to the Christopher and Dana Reeve Foundation for which she and I have a particular affinity having both survived breaking our necks. Gifts to animal rescue organizations mean a lot to me and support for children with cancer. I wish I could list here all of the deeply meaningful gifts I did receive. I am blessed to work with wonderful writers who are also wonderful people. On a personal note my biggest gift was having my family here during the holidays since we had children scattered across the globe this year with one daughter doing an internship in Zanzibar, my son traveling from Khirgistan to Paris and Washington DC, and my goddaughter returned from living in Canada for a while.

Great answers, and thanks so

Great answers, and thanks so much for being here!

I have a question -- with all the work you "have" to read, can you find time for pleasure reading, and is it the same or different than what you represent?

And do you read your clients' books after they're published? :)

M

Read in bed!
www.meganhart.com

Good question! I do read

Good question! I do read "real books" not manuscripts! Sometimes I read to keep up with what is new in the industry or because someone recommends a wonderful book and also because I naturally get a lot of free books from publishers that are tempting. I read more nonfiction than I represent sometimes in areas of interest like gardening (staring at flowers in seed catalogs lately and looking longingly at the buds on the forsythia). I read suspense novels and women's fiction or popular bestsellers like The Secret Life of Bees or Eat, Love, Pray, Snowflower and the Secret Fan and new talent in romance, etc. I have this theory that when I am on planes it isn't 'real time" so I can take that as time off for reading for fun.

Oh yes, planes are the

Oh yes, planes are the perfect place to read. :

M

Read in bed!
www.meganhart.com

Saying Hi

Hugs, Natasha,
I just had to swing by and give you a virtual hug. You wouldn't believe how many times I think of you. Your intellect has always blown me away.
Vella

Hi Vella!

Hi Vella,
How cool to find you here! I am not just a fan of your writing, but of your LIFE! You can write about heroines for good reason.

Hugs,

Natasha

Welcome, Natasha!

Great interview, Sam!

Natasha, it was wonderful getting to know you a little better. Thanks for chatting here with us today.

Kay

Kay Stockham
A Christmas To Remember, Harlequin Superromance, November 2007
Another Man's Baby, Harlequin Superromance, March 2008
Hannah's Choice, The Power of Love Antho, Berkley, June 2008
His Son's Teacher, Harlequin Superromance, July 2008
www.kaystockham.com

Sorry the blog wasn't so interactive as I'd hoped

Hey everyone,
I realize that blogging means you write things and then I respond. :-) But this shows how interrupt driven my life is. On Thursday just after I answered the first question, a film deal for a TV pilot (and series to follow) came through requiring immediate connection with my co-agent in Hollywood; two six figure offers for a client materialized with others in the works for a developing auction; an editor wanted to discuss her house's plans for a huge launch for one of my first time authors and talk about which cities would be right for a tour, ARCs, an ad budget and dozen other details; and another client was struggling to finish a book under a very tight deadline due a few weeks ago that is already scheduled for summer and being pre-sold. And, oh yes, 1099s had to go out and W-2s and my accountant needed to talk to me asap. Guess what? The blog went out the window! Sorry about that. But it turned out to be a whirlwind week for me which isn't unusual and is just the nature of the biz. I asked Sam to pitch in and help me out and I'm thankful she did. I appreciate all the great questions and your gracious welcome to your blog.

Excellent interview

Great information! Thanks for coming, Natasha.

Jeannie

Thanks!

Thanks so much for the informative answers. You've answered so many of the questions that an author in search of an agent would want to know.

Thank you!

Natasha, thank you so much for spending the day with us! What a great interview.

Occasionally, you hear about an author who has a manuscript go to auction and ends up getting this hugely lucrative deal. How does this happen, and have you ever experienced this with one of your clients? When a project crosses your desk, how do you know if it has the potential to be big?

I have an unpubbed friend who writes vampire paranormals, and she's finaled in or won numerous RWA sponsored contests. She's been told by agents and editors that the market is saturated and they're no longer acquiring these stories, yet we continually see new books coming out in this genre. What are your thoughts? Is the vampire romance dead?

Thanks again for sharing your time and experience with us!

Karen

Hi Karen

Karen, the answer is yes and no. Yes, of course I have had ms by first time writers that when to auction-- several in the past year alone. And yes I KNOW a book can be big when I read the ms. The truth is there are real pros and cons on this much too complex to go into here and a big reason why agents are indispensible. Getting a big advance is one thing. Earning out is another. What happens when that first contract isn't earned out? How do you get thousands of readers to buy a book (especially a hardcover book) by an unknown writer-- or get booksellers to stock it for that matter? You would be surprised how many writers can be dropped after that initial enthusiasm. A deal is one thing. A career is quite another. And this gets into rights and their allocation and how foreign sales can help to signal a big book or earn out a big advance and dozens of other things. an agent has to work with the in-house team to do everything possible to pull this off.

Regarding vampires, no they are not dead although yes there are a lot of these books out there. This is a normal, typical publishing cycle. Something gets popular-- regency romances, computer books, chick lit whatever and then everyone jumps in and the niche is overpublished so the cream of writers remain with their readerships but new writers have to write something that IS a WOW to get bought and noticed. You are continually seeing books come out that were bought 18-24 months ago. Paranormal isn't going to go away though and there will always be room for new talent. I am representing a new paranormal I'll be sending out this spring.

Natasha

Thanks for a very insightful

Thanks for a very insightful interview. It's always nice to hear how an agent works with her authors.

Question:
Besides delivering manuscripts that an agent can sell what else can an author do to make her agent's job easier? Or a better question could be what would you consider an ideal client?

An ideal client is one who

An ideal client is one who participates in a mutually respectful business relationship, is clear about needs and goals and communicates about career planning, and educates herself about the industry. A dream client has a gift for language and storytelling, a commitment to a writing career, a desire to learn and grow, and a passion for excellence. This client understands that many people have to work together for a book to succeed and that everything in publishing takes far longer than one imagines. Trust, communication and teamwork are truly essential.

Natasha

Face to face or long distance?

Natasha, thanks for being available today.

Sam, you thought of some excellent questions.

Natasha, do you find it useful to have face-to-face contact with your clients?

I ask because I've had the experience of researching an agent, deciding we'd be an excellent match, and then meeting, only to find that our personal styles grate on each other to the extent that it might be difficult to work together.

This has happened three times and it's made me leery of submitting to an agent I haven't at least eyeballed.

On the other hand, I know an excellent long-time agent who refuses to meet her clients because she won't let possible personal elements threaten a good business relationship.

I've also "clicked" with some agents and editors I've met, which has influenced the direction of what I write.

How do you know whether you can work together unless you've met the person?

Thanks,

Sally Jane Driscoll

This is an interesting

This is an interesting question! I've never had that happen in all these years agenting i.e. accepting a client and finding I don't like her face to face. I have worked with quite a few clients for a long time without meeting them (I'm thinking of a couple of new clients I have now). Yes, it is good to have face to face contact because, hey, I like spending time with my clients who are amazing and wonderful people! But, I've never changed my opinion or view or relationship with anyone after meeting them that I can recall. I certainly don't refuse to meet them either! That seems pretty odd since you are going to be working with one another for years. I believe in personal connections and mutual respect. I think in writing in particular it is very hard to separate out the personal from the professional-- for one thing writers work from their creative subconscious and who they are and their life experiences inform the work-- the more I understand about that, the better especially in assessing which direction are likely to be fruitful for them. Also, the personal intrudes-- issues that come up affect writing schedules, deadlines and so on so a writer inevitably must trust her agent with personal information another professional (say her accountant) might not know. I sometimes think I know more about some clients than their spouses (LOL) because I not only know what they earn but also their fears and inner voices that emerge as characters. I don't think it is essential to be close friends with an agent but personal elements are an integral part of this business relationship. One problem I have with the egregious speed dating conference interviews is precisely that the focus is not on anything written so easy to judge the person on whether you like their hairstyle or clothing and how nervous they are etc. I suppose it is possible to misjudge someone whether you have met them or not or even if there is a commitment which is why divorce happens. Realistically with clients all over the country or even in other countries who don't attend conferences face to face can't always happen!

Natasha

A sigh of relief

Thanks so much for your thoughtful reply!

"Writers work from their creative subconscious and who they are and their life experiences inform the work-- the more I understand about that, the better especially in assessing which direction are likely to be fruitful for them."

Sounds like you do understand writers, and how their inner and outer parts work together. How wonderful for your lucky clients.

Thanks again,

Sally

Category to Mainstream

Natasha, thanks so much for stopping by and sharing your expertise with us!

Do you have any advice for a category author who would like to expand to mainstream?

Carrie

Carrie, my advice is to

Carrie, my advice is to realize that A) yes this can be done and I have certainly gotten single title deals for category authors-- one this month in fact B) it REALLY is a different kind of book so some skills transfer but quite a lot must be re-learned. C) you can't do this alone but need an agent and D) you need a wonderful mainstream novel first before considering this.

One difference is that category inherently is concept-based which is why lines exist like NEXT or Presents or Blaze. They have specified levels of steaminess, length, when cute meet must happen, how soon or how often there are sex scenes, happily ever after and so on. Which is why they are referred to as being formulaic. This isn't something to be denigrated--although it might sound like it. It is the difference between craft and art. Being a great craftsman whether a boat builder or furniture maker requires skill, discipline, talent and an artisanal sense. it is worthy of being paid to produce it. My home has wonderfully crafted items in it. But it isn't art. Art emerges not from the requirement of needing say, ten more coffee tables or five matching vases but out of the psyche, talent and heart of the creator. It has an 'indwelling spirit" which in fiction we refer to as a premise (and which is invisible in category) or in a painting or piece of music can be an emotion or thought. There is some piece of the author on the page, something uniquely theirs. That is why if we consider books by Charlaine Harris or Christine Feehan or Debbie Macomber or whomever, literary to commercial, there is the sense of voice i.e. the writer behind the work and of something they are trying to convey to us about the world from their point of view. Jennifer Cruisie is a master of premise as her titles suggest-- we know what her novels are about and what she is trying to tell us and then she tells us in her own unique way, funny and insightful. Mainstream novels are more character based although plot can be very strong too and where they intersect becomes the point of story. Genre loosely provides the concept, but most writers find a way as Susan Elizabeth Phillips and Jayne Ann Krentz say in their conference presentations to express what THEY want --that they didn't write breakout novels but just kept writing what they wrote well and eventually they got very good at it and it caught on.

This may be easiest to see in terms of structure in Christian fiction because there is, of necessity, a faith plot that defines and expresses that 'indwelling spirit' and character and plot are clearly tied to that, which doesn't mean there aren't surprises. A Christian writer might express this: God calls you to write, gives you a story to tell, but how you express it is the offering you give back of your own talent, your service, your devotion. Creating art is a sacred endeavor throughout history and across cultures in all media. This is no less present in secular fiction; it just takes a more trained eye to see it. You can't keep writing category as a means to getting to mainstream because mainstream isn't just bigger, longer, better category any more than a sonnet is just a bigger haiku or a novel is a longer short story. Writers who are destined to write mainstream often have trouble fitting into the Procrustian bed of category and feel frustrated by it from the beginning. When you understand what story is your own (rather than trying to fit into something defined by someone else) then you will begin to shine. Allison Brennan describes this process quite well in the current issue of RWR. She wrote four novels that didn't sell and then a NYT bestseller because she began to recognize her own voice, style and yes indwelling spirit. A lot of readers recognized it right away too.

Here is a hint: Think about what stories you loved as a child. I mean REALLY loved and read over and over. why did you love that story? What are the elements in it and what resonated with you? What themes, characters, plot? If you can get at where your uniqueness and storytelling come together, you will write your best work. And every agent and editor and reader will recognize it right away! And this is why a line can't dictate that. And this is what we are all longing to find.

Natasha

Chiming in...

You can't keep writing category as a means to getting to mainstream because mainstream isn't just bigger, longer, better category any more than a sonnet is just a bigger haiku or a novel is a longer short story.

As I have been trying to do this, I wanted to chime in here, because this is something I've heard many times, but have only recently started to understand. Thanks to Natasha explaining them over, and over, and over...and Natasha is the only one I've met who's been able to articulate the difference between category and mainstream in really useful ways, btw.

I've wasted a couple of years learning this the hard way, LOL, writing myself into holes (those authors who never fit into category have an advantage -- those of us inside of category have a harder fight, I think -- I heard Jennie Crusie had to take two years off at one point to relearn what and how she wanted to write), so maybe I can save you some time. ;) I've come to think of it in a couple of metaphoric ways. In category, it's like walking into a house, maybe one of those housing developments where most of the houses resemble each other in some basic way, but either way the house is empty -- the rooms are there, the design of the house is set, but you have to come up with how each room will be designed, what color it will be painted, etc -- and this is a talent unto itself. We know for sure not everyone can remodel or decorate a house well. ;) It may look very similar to other houses from the outside, though you can make it yours on the inside.

For mainstream, you have an empty plot of land. You have to be designer, architect, decorator, and everything else, and it calls on a completely different set of talents, a new perspective. Yes, you can build a house just like the one next door, but then it's not really your house, is it? Better you take a look around the neighborhood you want to live in, see what kind of house would fit, if it's the place for you, but then build a house that complements the are (or maybe it doesn't -- maybe it's bold and new and stands out), but is still uniquely yours. Because you have to live in it. And when people peruse the neighborhood, they won't just see a house that looks like everyone else's, they'll stop and look, and admire, what you did, because there will be something special about it, it will be *yours*.

I will also suggest that while some writers have done it on their own, some of us can't -- get help! You can't get by on talent alone. Agents (good agents, who aren't in it just to sell a book, but to nurture your career), professional writing coach, etc, will tell you what you need, or help you get there.

I hope any of it made any sense, but I'm just starting to get the gist of this process, and it's a tough road, at least it has been for me, but there are rewards, too.

Sam

Wow!

Wow! You've given me a lot to consider, Natasha. I have a project that wasn't right for the category lines because it was too dark and mainstream. One of the projects in particular intrigues me and I think I'll go back and explore it, allowing myself to really let loose and see where it takes me. For an established category author, is it advisable to have the mainstream manuscript completed before the agent search? Or can it be a concurrent type thing?
Carrie

Hey Carrie

I'm not sure if N will make it back in today, she has lots going on, but for my two cents, I think its both best and not best to have a completed book. Best, because they want a complete book to sell, but not best because if it's not right, you've written a whole book for nothing. Maybe the best move (which isn't what I did, but here, see, I'm trying to save you time again, LOL), is to have a solid partial, and pitch to agents at conferences or touch base with ones you know, like Natasha, and I imagine some of them would be open to that, and they can also tell you if the book is moving in the wrong direction before it's done, and help you re-route it...

Sam

Category and mainstream

Carrie, I don't completely agree with Sam on this. I think her house analogy is excellent. Architecture lends itself to comparison to writing because there isn't a lot of point in doing interior decorating and picking out wallpaper and carpets if there isn't any plumbing or windows or electricity that works!

I think it is best to have a completed book because we are going to ask for that anyway most likely unless you have very strong category success (which is certainly possible) and you aren't going to be able to just whip this out. As Sam says you can think you are on the right track and still take a long time to actually get it right. I had a client who had 3 mainstream novels published with a major house before she figured out a lot of this because she was a total pantser. She wrote so brilliantly her editor almost didn't mind and it was hard to even notice that, um, the plot was thin. But after she got the power of premise and other crucial elements, then her career took off. I don't think you would write a book for nothing. I think you would write a book to learn how to write a book. If this were music, you would actually have to play that violin a lot or if this were dancing there would be those bloody toe shoes long before any performance. There is a quote from a famous violinist who was asked in his 90s why he still practiced every day. His response: "I think I'm starting to see some improvement." It may be that in the future when you REALLY get all of this down, you can resurrect the ms. or idea and revise it too. Yes, I can see structural problems in a partial but it isn't my job to teach you to write and you still need to learn to write a mainstream novel so start doing it. Practice, practice, practice. Another great story along these lines is one Ann Patchett tells about a doctor telling her at a party that he has always intended to start writing on the side and now inspired by meeting her has determined to take Tuesday's off from his surgery practice to write that novel. Ann responded without missing a beat, Isn't that curious, we can do an exchange of offices, I've been seriously thinking about doing brain surgery on Tuesdays and now we can just trade! When you've put in the equivalent of medical school, internship and residency then yes you can become a professional. And there is no end to learning and growing. And never anything for nothing. Getting paid during the process is nice too.

Aiy...

I don't think you would write a book for nothing. I think you would write a book to learn how to write a book.

I stand corrected. ;) (But at least I got the house analogy right! I'm getting somewhere! LOL)

And maybe there is no way to shortcut the process, even if it means writing yourself into several dead-ends as I have done, but then again I guess they *aren't* dead-ends because each time I get a little closer to realizing what I have to do...

So. . .yes. It is frustrating though, and has that feeling of "writing for nothing" when you spend so much time writing something that pretty much just leads to more writing... But I suppose this is the process, and it's what it is...

Sam

Thanks, Natasha and Sam!

Thanks so much for your input, Natasha and Sam! Of course, I was hoping you would tell me that all I needed to make a major mainstream sale was a kick ass partial. ;-) You've given me a lot to think about. And gear myself up to write that book without the safety net of a contract. Funny how quickly we become accustomed to having a contract....
Carrie

I enjoyed reading your

I enjoyed reading your responses.

But I have a question -

You mentioned previously published. I've noticed that on other agent websites and submission guidelines as well.

Do you go by RWA definition of published? Or does the previously published distinction include those who have been published in the e-publishing industry?

Yes

I've looked at self-published material. In general, though, the problem with e-books is that they are typically shorter novella length. I have accepted a client who was e-published. I don't require that those querying the agent are previously published so this is mostly irrelevant. I just want brilliant writing!

Natasha

Nonfiction.

Natasha, it's so nice to have this opportunity to chat with you, and thank you for being here. Your website indicates that you represent both fiction and nonfiction. Is there a great deal of difference between the two areas from your perspective as an agent?
Ruth

Welcome and thank you!

Hi, Natasha -

I love the microloan Christmas gift idea; that's truly a gift that keeps on giving in so many powerful ways.

This isn't really a question - just wanted to let you know how struck I was by the comment related to using the gifts you've been given and focusing your life energy on particular books or clients. That's a powerful place to live from, one I'm sure benefits you, your family, and your clients. Thanks for sharing!

Margaret

Wonderful Topic

Thank you for taking the time to do this. When do you think an aspiring author who has had positive rejections contact an agent?

Fiction and Non-Fiction

The chasm here is so vast I can't really respond to it in this format. For one thing nonfiction is sold based on a proposal which is nothing like a fiction proposal and the criteria are completely different. Only memoir and narrative nonfiction have some reasonable commonalities in storytelling.

Natasha

PS: Sorry, this was supposed to go down below -- hit the wrong link. :)

It depends on what kind of

It depends on what kind of rejections and from whom. This is like the questions about contest wins. You can contact an agent at any time but make sure you are sending out the very best you can write. Have the reasons for rejection been addressed? Does this really have dramatic tension? Is it emotionally involving?

Natasha

Selling on a Proposal

Great interview!

My question is...what impact, if any, does having recent non-fiction sales have on an author's ability to sell a contemporary single title on a proposal? What if, in addition to the non-fiction, the author had also published several category romances several years ago?

Thanks.

There is absolutely no

There is absolutely no impact at all unless maybe you wrote a huge bestseller that was narrative. You still have to complete a first novel. All of this background suggests you have some writing skills but this is like asking whether the fact that you wrote a stage play will help you to get a job writing advertising jingles or qualify you to write epic poems. Not a lot of cross over. And this isn't a good idea anyway.

Natasha

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Hey folks -- this is Sam -- Natasha is having some technical problems, so I'm in checking out her account.. She is trying to answer your questions, so hold on for the moment...

Sam

Hi, Natasha. Lot's of good

Hi, Natasha. Lot's of good information.

I'm curious. Have you ever had a "one who got away" author?

Yes, absolutely. But you

Yes, absolutely. But you know I have a firm belief that what is meant for me will be for me. In a couple of cases I have been interested in writers who decided to work with other agents-- they wanted an agent in NY or the experience of being with a larger agency, whatever. And a year or two later I would hear from them and their book had not sold, they were unhappy, things weren't working out and so on. In one case the novel had been sent out prematurely and she chose the other agent because I had told her they had to do revisions and she wanted immediate success. When the rejections came back mentioning exactly the same problems I had told her about, the author contacted me and said OK you were right-- if I do exactly what you tell me will you take me on? It took her six months to get it right and I had to go back to some editors and tell them what had happened (so we wouldn't run into having them as second reads in house) and to give them a second chance-- NOT EASY-- but in the end a multibook deal for hardcover publication. So I don't worry about something "getting away." If I'm the right agent, the author will figure that out.

Natasha

"Tough-to-market" books

Hi Natasha,

Thanks so much for all the insights you've already offered today!

Have you worked with any writers you felt were hard to classify, or who wrote in a subgenre that wasn't selling well at the time? Would you generally advise such a writer to tweak her work closer to an existing marketing niche, or to persist in that subgenre in the hope that it will strike editors as a change of pace?

Yes. definitely. This is so

Yes. definitely. This is so individual I can only respond based on the particular work. It is a judgement call. I have an author who has a multibook contract with one publisher and she wrote a book in an unusual and not yet popular niche but I loved the book and her editor did too. When it was published, the numbers were not great. We all agreed she would write other genres while we all waited to see if this niche became more viable and every six months or so we all reassess it because we all want it to work-- and still believe at some point this will happen! Do we want her to change those books. NO! But meanwhile she needs to have a career . . . I strongly believe in writing the book of your heart unless you are writing for a category line.

Natasha

Ooooh, excellent questions!

Which leads me to want to write a good one too. Lots of folks have told me to start an agent search, but I'm still thinking I'm not ready. How much time do you put into the development of a potential author before deciding she's just not ready?

Dee

I usually put time into

I usually put time into developing a writer until she IS ready and sometimes this does take years. This, too, is very individual and depends on her direction and what I love about her writing.

Natasha

A-ha!

I love the feeling when something clicks. The architectural perspective was perfect! When I decided to write as a career, I struggled with my direction. I chose series contemporary when I realized the majority of my books were in a particular line. After doing well with my first manuscript, I was on a high and crashed when I got my first rejection. But after taking a step back and really looking at the editors suggestions,
I could picture the story using her ideas...which of course gave it a much stronger foundation. As we learn and grow...we're building the framework.

In my favorite class in high school, the teacher would have a sentence written on the board when we came in on Fridays. We were expected to write a story using our individualized voice. It was so interesting to hear the different spins people came up with, much like category. I'm familiar with the method and it's easier for me to write at this point. Eventually when I feel more comfortable in my abilities I will venture out with single title.

Thank you so much Natasha, Sam and Cigars! All of the questions I had were beautifully answered.

Chelle

Desparately Seeking An Agent

I am struggling with finding an agent for a book that I have worked on for six years since a teenager fell asleep at the wheel and changed our lives forever. In "Accidental Journey: Surviving Trauma" I start with my partner Gayle's heart wrenching victim statement, which she reads locally to teenagers in a driving school as I pass out pictures of the accident. There is rarely a dry eye. Gayle's story is powerful, inspiring, and can help so many others.

After about 50 rejections, one agent in London asked for the manuscript. We were so hopeful. Although she passed on it, she thought Betsy Lerner would be good. I got on it immediately, but alas, she had just sold a similar story.

Recently I put together a film about the accident and posted it to five video sites in hopes of reaching someone who knows someone. It can be found on YouTube by searching "Accidental Journey".

Rejection is hard, but this is not a novel that is getting rejected. It is a true story that is ongoing and causes hardship and new traumas daily. I could use some advice on how to keep going on with this process, and at the least, some constructive encouragement. I am the main care giver and bread winner in a family where our 12-year-old son, who is now turning 19, survived 11 breaks and fractures to his mother's 123. People have read "Accidental Journey" and said, "This HAS to be published!" And Gayle sees no meaning behind what happened unless she is able to touch the lives of others.