Karen Foley
Lynn Raye Harris
Ellen Hartman
Diana Holquist
Samantha Hunter
Shirley Jump
Dee Tenorio
Jeannie Watt
The Name of the Book Is Secret....
I'm done the first 150 pages of my next book, which is coming together very, very slowly. This is how I write, though, and there's no sense in fighting it. I just can't go on until these pages are perfect. It's an awful process--slow and lots of going back and changing, fixing, shining.
Some might call this masturbation.
Good thing I'm a romance writer and would never be so crude.
Anyway, this is around the time I start thinking about titles. I love titles. A lot. But this book is tricky. It's about....
...gah! I can't write what it's about.
Some might call this paranoid.
So besides being stuck on the first 150 pages, I'm completely paranoid. Like someone would steal my premise and write the book themselves. This is absurd, as 1) books are very, very hard to write, even if one steals the idea and 2) the idea probably isn't as good as I think.
Anyway, way back Sarah McKerrigan wrote this great post in the GrandCentralCafe cafe blog (you can read it here) about titles and how hard they are. This was her idea for a title, which makes me laugh whenever I think of it, which is often titled as you see in the image to the left...
I think I'll steal Sarah's idea and call my book that, too. I don't think readers will get too mixed up, as my book will have modern folks on the cover, not fair ladies and knights.
Unless I happened to write a time travel...
Or at least, the first 150 pages of a time travel...
But I'm NOT TELLING!
(Whew, back to mastur....er...back to work!)
--Diana
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I do the same thing :)
I am also a polish as I go person, and on a new book where I have been "pantsing it" that takes on special proportions, LOL.
I also don't like to discuss what my books are about until at least when I have sent them to my agent - that way I know she's got them, and there's a formal submission in place, but even so, I tend to be vague about it -- except with CPs, who probably hear more than they want to. ;)
I think it's smart to protect your work... it's protecting your thinking about it, too.
Although I do have to have a title almost from the start.. having a good working title for me is something that must be there almost from the start... it could change when eds get hold of it, but I couldn't write with a placeholder title -- it would drive me bonkers... I think because it's very closely married to my conception of what the book is about, in it's pithiest sense. Which can change, but *something* that works for me has to be there.
Interestingly, I have written several books that started with just the title -- I get the title first, then find the book. Not always, but interesting when that happens...
Sam
So glad I'm not alone...
So maybe I'm not paranoid? Or, more likely, we're both paranoid...
I wish I didn't even have to tell my editor what the book's about. It's a constantly evolving beast...
LOL
I've done that w/Natasha -- said "I'm working on something, but I don't want to tell you about it right now because I'm still figuring it out" and she's fine with that, though I suppose an editor might be different. They kind of have to know what we're working on, but the good side is that they are probably also used to writers dealing with half-formed or half-baked ideas, and know we'll work it out -- and sometimes they usually help. ;)
Sam
do you think...
having an idea or a keyword for the title helps give more insight to the book itself as you go?
Even though I have no cp or am published, I find myself lately not wanting to talk in depth about a story I'm writing. It seems we all, pubbed or not, don't want to share in case someone else writes about the same. I will say I had an idea recently, and discovered another writer used the same premise! Hers were pubbed within the past year (3 stories). But then I thought, she writes her way, I write mine.
I also have found that if my beginning couple scenes are not polished - I can't move on! But now that I know this, I won't struggle so much. I hope.
Getting the beginning right...
...to me is the struggle to nail down the characters. If I don't do that, the book can't move forward. That's why it takes me forever to get the beginning in place. I've also stopped fighting it. You've got to respect your own individual process.
Again, me too
I think we share a brain, Diana. Beginnings are my absolute worst spot in a book. I hear people who say they can trot out a beginning, but then die in the middle, and I think, well that's because your beginning wasn't good enough to support your middle! LOL
The beginnings may take me weeks, and then the rest of the book can go in half the time.
And yeah, no point in fighting your process...
Though I think we share that process, LOL
Sam
Heh!
Great post, Diana, and I enjoyed Sarah's, too :) Not a writer here, but I can understand wanting to keep one's work to oneself for a while. It seems a bit like keep a delicious secret to oneself for a bit, to more to savor it for a while. And yes, seeing as how even a short comment can take me forever to write, a book is VERY VERY hard to write! Yay you!
Money making opportunity?
1. Perhaps because we "learned" to write together, Diana and I have a similar horrid process. Write, polish, edit, back and forth. Diana started before me so I'm blaming this process on her. She has a lot to answer for. ;-)
2. The Super authors had an interesting email conversation two years ago about conflict and in the course of the conversation it turned out three of us had submitted books with a car accident and drinking as part of the plot. Our first reactions were all horror because it was obvious Superromance wouldn't be publishing three identical books so rejection must be on the way. Then we shared some details and the books were all totally different. All three did get published. Marcie's right--my story is not your story, no matter how close the ideas are.
3. I've seen Diana's book and I know the plot. Anyone who wants in on the secret should send me $27 and a bag of plain M&M's. If you send a party-size bag, I'll update you when she starts brainstorming titles. Trust me, this book is wonderful and original and absolutely worth a little black market bribery!
;-)
In the mail today
Keep a look out. ;)
Sam
Oh, thank heavens...
Money and candy is on the way. I can't WAIT to hear what the heck this book is about, because I've completely lost track of it.
I slap the entire book
I slap the entire book together. I know the scenes, so I write them, then connect them later. I stash them in folders and then pull them out and stick them in when I start writing from beginning to end. (I just heard those gasps of horror from the linear threesome.)
Sometimes I write the first three chapters and then start the scene writing. I go back and forth, back and forth. By the time I'm done, I've rewritten the beginning about five or six times, to make it match the middle and end, the middle about three times to make it match the end, and I usually write the ending once as I'm driving to UPS to send it off by deadline.
And that is my process.
whah
Horror doesn't begin to cover it.
You have things that don't go together and then you make them go together??? How? What? I...sigh.
My goal in life is to see a book published someday with the ending I turned in. For some reason my revisions always include "rewrite the end." ("End" can mean anything from pages to a few chapters to half the book.)
Cringe
I don't think I can read Jeannie's post again... too traumatic... *G*
Sam
With my new software...
...I'm getting closer to this process of treating the book more as a jigsaw puzzle that can be manipulated. But I suppose that writing software is a whole different post...
Jeannie just...
shocked me so much I think I'll go back to work. The day job that is.
My mouth is hanging open - in shock or awe -not sure.
Ah, Process...
Mine's messy, to say the least. I usually have some kind of working title, but frustrate the hell out of my husband by not using it (it seems presumptuous somehow, like I'm a "real author" if I give my books titles). So I'll use character names when we talk, but then he doesn't remember the story, which is no surprise given that he doesn't remember the names of my two best high school friends and he's known these women 20 years. Then I go by plot. Which leads to my process, which is to write a bunch of stuff about the characters and rework it until I have a book. I will never get to do seminars about my writing process...no color-coded sticky notes, no diagrams, no charts or whiteboards...just a bunch of words and an ever-increasing "deleted" file.
So Jeannie, I feel your pain!
Anne
www.annecalhoun.com
www.annecalhoun.wordpress.com
Ewwwww. Charts!
The C word...nearly as bad as the S word (Spreadsheet...).
My planning process (there really isn't one except throwing out a bunch of ideas and seeing what sticks, and driving friends batty in the process)... is way different than my writing process. Writing, I am strictly chronological and have to edit as I go, have a title.
If that gave the impression I know what I'm doing from the start, uh, no. Which is what makes beginnings so hard! LOL
I would never do seminars about my writing process because I believe everyone is entitled to their own. ;) (I have to admit, this is why I don't go to or have too much interest in writing workshops... I know how I work, and I'm not likely to try on anything I don't think would fit...).
Sam
I do the names, too.
I still call my published books "Amy's book" or "Jasmine's book." Guess that means they're character driven!
Hooray for messiness (she types, while ignoring the housework around her...)!
Hey guys--it works for me. I
Hey guys--it works for me. I try writing front to back, but I always have to revamp, so why not just dab a little color here, add some spice there and then connect it all up.
Ellen--I do have to change things when I connect everything up, but not as much as one might think.
Anne--Anyone who writes is a "real" author. Glad to meet another nonlinear.
Jeannie
We lub you Jeannie
You could write them upside down and backwards in the tub naked for all I care, as long as we get your books. ;)
Sam
What?! Jeannie writes naked and upside down??
Isn't that how rumors get started? :D
No matter how you authors cobble your books together, I'll happily devour them!
Who told about naked and
Who told about naked and upside down? I want names. And, for the record, I was wearing a thong.
Always with the tub
It always comes back to the tub with you, Sam. Just because you write in the shower doesn't mean the rest of us do. ;-)
I'll have you know that my office is a perfectly respectable half-of-a-bed. My poor dear husband just sighs when I ask him to stop lying on my desk. Well, he sighs and moves over. I'm very happy he doesn't have a blog. ;-)
Oh the google traffic!
Can't wait to meet all our new friends who Google "naked and upside down" and end up here.
Sorry to disappoint, guys. Just writing talk.