Books Without Sex

Samantha Hunter's picture

We talk a lot about sex here, go figure, but what about the books we read that don't include THE ACT in glorious detail and in all of its forms? Are you disappointed when you get into a book and find it's sex-light? How do you feel about the closing of the door on a sex scene?

Now, I have to admit, I have a huge pet peeve about door closing, and to me there is a great difference between a book that is light on sex and one that closes the door. Light sex or no sex is fine -- closing the door is not fine, period.

Some of my favorite books and authors are not authors of hot romance: Lisa Scottoline, Charlaine Harris, Maria Snyder, Nevada Barr, Harlan Coben, just to name a few, write books that have romantic elements but not a whole lotta detailed sex, depending on the book. Their books are sexy, but not necessarily sexual. That doesn't keep me from buying every book they put out (heh, put out....)

But a book that closes the door is one that's dragged you along, built the tension, and then they not only close the door, they close it in your face -- you know the feeling. Reading these books is is like: Wait for it, wait for it, wait for it.... BAM. It sucks. It is a throw-the-book-against-the-wall killer moment for me. I am practically guaranteed never to pick up books by that author again, not just because I am disappointed as a reader, but as a writer I would have been more interested to see them exert the skill to show intimacy in more subtle ways.

A closed door leaves a reader with nothing but disappointed expectations, and that's very bad, IMO. I wish editors would kibosh closed doors, make them one of those mythical "things writers shouldn't do" -- an author doesn't have to write graphic sex, but they shouldn't be allowed to close the reader out, either.

However, while I hate closed doors, I don't necessarily need the books I read to include graphic sex. I don't know if I would write a book with no sex altogether, since it's important in romance to show how people act physically toward each other, IMO. I like to keep my options open, especially as I get older, the books I will write will change, too.

As I ponder some new projects that are not Blaze-specific, I am intrigued with the possibility of not putting quite so much energy into writing extended, graphic sex scenes. I think there is a separate set of skills and talents altogether to conveying sex and sensuality without all the sexual detail. I have read books where I've literally skipped through the sex scenes trying to find the story -- so having sex in a book is not enough to make it a satisfying read.

For me, in the end it depends on THE STORY, because at the end of the day, that is what rules all the decisions a writer makes, the needs of THE STORY. If THe STORY needs sex, well, then, sex gets written. But if not. . .well, hmmm.

So, how about you? Do you enjoy books that don't include a lot of sex? What are some of your favorites? Do you read any authors who write books with varied levels of heat? If you are a writer, have you thought of writing books with little or no sex?

Sam

Books/Sex

It all depends on the writer for me. Like you, I get annoyed at that slamming door if there were hot hints all along. But there are writers who tell such a good story, I don't care whether there's sex or not. One that comes easily to mind is Patricia Briggs. I haven't read all of her books yet--so some might be very sexy--but the ones I have, were read in one complete rush because they are just so freaking good. They aren't explicit books, but she's very good at keeping the reader interested in the relationships. :)

Hey Rinda!

Yes -- oh, I forgot Briggs, yes! One of the best things there is that her character Mercy is so smart about who she will potentially get involved with and why -- she knows the rules of her world, and they prevent her from just slutting around. Really find that increases the sexual tension in greats ways -- I *want* Mercy to get with one of the heroes, but I understand completely why she doesn't. And I don't think it gets better than that, really.

Sam

Briggs has also given each

Briggs has also given each potential hero something to make him stand out, so it's freaking hard to pick one, isn't it? She manages to give the books enough sexual tension to keep you following the romance subplot and I have to wonder how explosive the scenes will be when she finally chooses...

Yes

Though I think I am leaning more to Adam.... She's done an incredible job of weaving complex characters, tho...

Sam

Hm, hot or not?

My preference is on the steamy side. That said, I can love a book that's all tension (Loretta Chase did this really well in her trad. Regencies, like The Devil's Delilah - so much passion in a look!) or that never goes anywhere near the bedroom door (The Blue Castle, LM Montgomery) because it's right for that story. I read for a good story first and last.

Agreed

Though I have to admit, I got the cover for my August Blaze today, and I can't wait to share it with you guys, and it definitely makes me think "yes, sex!" LOL

I also read a regency once I liked a lot, and it didn't have a lot of sex. I think genre has a lot to do with it -- maybe in romance I expect sex, and like it hot, where in mystery, paranormal, women's fic, etc I can go different ways...

Sam

Sure, I read all sorts of

Sure, I read all sorts of books. I'm not a fan of the closed door, either, because if I'm reading about someone falling in love and they're going to make love, I want to read about it as much as about everything else. But it doesn't have to be graphic to be sexy or enjoyable, if that's not the sort of book it is. M

yes

I think it has a lot to do with my mood as well -- sometimes a sexy book is perfect (a good deal of the time, LOL), but there are times as a reader that I reach for variety as well. That could mean something super-sexy, like your books, or something different altogether.

Sam

I would still read a book with no sex in it.

I would still read a book with no sex in it,but to tell you the truth I don't remember the last time I read a book without sex in it. I still like my book steamy and hot but I could read a sexless book if the story was good enough. Sam, Speaking of Charlaine Harris did you know that they are doing her Southern Vampire series as a tv series? They are shooting the pilot right now and the executive producer is Alan Ball(Six Feet Under)Sookie will be played by Ana Paquin. I know all this because an actor I know turned down the part of Bill? The show will be on HBO next fall. Katelyn,

I did know this

but I didn't know the details! Thanks for letting me know. I don't get HBO, so I'm either going to have to get it or scam it from someone (any offers? LOL). I wish it was on Fox or WB instead...

Sam

Oh! There it is!

Look down the page to see my August cover for Pick Me Up -- whoo! (I got it early for an RT ad, and couldn't wait to share! The back cover write up:

"Only a very wicked woman would stop for a hitchhiking cowboy. But Lauren Baker is no good girl—not anymore. Playing it safe never got her anywhere, except alone and broke. So when sexy Brett Wallace asks for a ride to a nearby hotel, she knows it’s time to get naughty.

Betrayed by both his bride and best man, Brett’s bad day turns much better when a gorgeous stranger offers to warm his bed for the night. The mind-blowing sex makes him forget everything but luscious Lauren’s body. The morning after, instead of a “thank-you, ma’am” from Brett, Lauren gets an invitation to his ranch…for as long as it’s mutually satisfying. And that’s a proposition no self-respecting bad girl could refuse..."

Sam

I'm definitely fine with

I'm definitely fine with books without sex in them -- that's why I loved traditional regencies which no longer exist. LOL :) To me, the sex is secondary to the story of the two falling in love and everything that goes with it. But sure, adding sex makes it enjoyable. :) Lois

I like it to be there most of the time

I have no problem reading a book with a good sex scene, but do I need it to be 50 pages long and not move the story along? No, not at all. I read Laurel K. Hamilton and while I love her Merry Gentry series I had to stop reading her Anita Blake series for just this reason. Her Anita Blake series started out with a storyline in each book, but by the 10th or 11th book in the series the storylines pretty much went by the wayside. It seemed like every time you turned around Anita was having sex with someone else, that's fine not a problem, but please do we need it to last 10, 20 or even 30 pages? No, put it in there write as hot as you want just don't draw it out endlessly. I'm also a fan of James Patterson who for the most part does not have sex scenes, as his books are mainly mysteries. That's not to say that he doesn't occasionally put them in there, and if he does it's because the story is calling for it, and not just to add pages to his book. Michelle

I have to try JP

I've heard a lot about him -- you know, most male authors skip the sex, and sometimes I really wish they wouldn't -- wussies. ;) LOL

But I do know what you mean -- I stopped reading that series for the same reason, and a few others as well -- I don't mind lots of sex as long as there's lots of story.

I think we all really want the same things, reading through the posts, but it's clear story outweighs sex in most cases... Sex is kind of a story goody...

Sam

Yup - nodding

"Sex is kind of a story goody... "

Like... chocolate sauce poured over an already decadently delicious chocolate cake.

The sauce rocks, and it definitely adds a lot to the taste... but it really is all about the cake.

Sorry - I obviously have a food fixation this week LOLOLOL

Books/Sex/Cowboys

I do enjoy books that I don't have a lot of sex. Too much sex can sometimes ruin the story, or draw attention to the fact that there is no plot and it's all just sex for filler. That gets old. You also have the authors that will lead you up to the sex and totally leave you hanging, like you said, and that's just bad. I read Debbie Macomber a lot, and I love her stuff. She doesn't write a lot of sex, if any, in a lot of her books. She mentions it, sure, but never writes the whole scene out. I did read one of her older books that actually did have a sex scene in it, and I was really surprised. It was even well-written. The reason I read Debbie's books is because a. I love her stories and writing style and b. I love the "warm fuzzy" feeling I get after I read them. They're just caring, kind, fun reads and they make me want to join whatever family she's written about. I was reading a book last night by Stef Ann Holm and I loved it, but it was getting somewhat past the middle of the book and I was just going, come on, where's the sex??? She'd been leading and leading and leading up to it the entire book, so by then you're on the edge of your seat going, "Come on, hot fireman, let's GO!" If she had left it without sex I would have been completely disappointed and thrown the book at a wall. Seriously. You can't have a hot fireman named Tony and NOT have some sex in it. Here I am thinking that they need to make use of that firetruck he drives.. But wait, where was I? Now, Sam, if you leave sex out of the hot cowboy book you have down there, we're going to have a problem! But since it's you, and judging from the blurb, and the hottie on the cover, we won't have any issues. :)

No worries

LOL - no, Kate, no problem -- you can be assured there's plenty of sex in there, LOL. I was just going through the galleys this morning and even gave myself a few "oh my" moments, ROTFL

Of course, thinking about Tawny's food and sex thread down below, I am writing my Christmas Blaze now, and they're having sex while making Christmas cookies -- I'll just let that one sit with you all for the next 8 months! ;>

I take it the fireman book finally did give it up? Good thing...

Sam

Of course

I can read a book without sex or very little sex. I've read some great ones (Charlaine Harris, whom you mentioned Sam, does a good job of it). I've also read books that have too much sex (yes, there is such a thing like the Anita Blake series that Shellbell mentioned by Laurell K. Hamilton). However, if someone leads me up to the door and then slams it in my face...oooh, I am so ticked! I read a Harlequin Romance a few years ago (first one in a long time) and it led up, led up, wait for it, it's going to be in the next chapter for sure and then BAM! Nothing. Zero. Nada. Zilch. I was so frustrated (poor play on words). Because I'm not talking about should we/shouldn't we? If done right, those books can be great. This was, she had her legs waxed, picked out sexy lingerie and then it's the next chapter and the next day. I couldn't even tell if they had done it! That was unforgiveable. And it was the last Harlequin Romance I read. ani

hell yeah

One of my favourite authors ever is Georgette Heyer, and her regency romances often didn't feature a kiss until the very end, but they still made my heart ache. I'm with Ani on this, however - if the author leads me to expect sex by building up lots of sizzle and passion, I want it. No closed doors. It feels like a cop out, a cheat. And really old fashioned, too, I always find. If the book is about emotional closeness as well as physical desire, and the build up isn't just about heat...well, that's a different story. Having said all that, hot sex scenes rock. JR Ward readers will know what I mean...

Sure I am...

Of course I'm frustrated/ticked off. I would much rather read books with sex scenes in them rather than books with little to no sex. I used to only read regular catergory romances, but then I stopped because they were getting too tame. Then years later I found out about Blaze Romances! I love these. :) Kristen