You gotta have friends...
I'm blessed to have a number of good friends. Some have been around for a long time - years. Some are more recently acquired. Some I spent hours chatting with via IM, some I see once every few weeks, and some I hardly ever see or talk to at all, but know I could pick up the phone and it would be like no time had passed.
But what about friends in fiction?
I think we can all think of some "friends" stories -- Thelma and Louise. The Divine Secrets of the Ya-Ya Sisterhood. Stories about women seem to lend themselves well to groups of friends. Stories with groups of male friends don't spring as readily to mind, though I'm sure there are some.
But those don't tend to be romances, at least not the ones I'm thinking of.
Oh sure, in romance, you have the heroine's BFF or maybe the hero's BMP (Best Male Pal) -- but with the focus on the hero and heroine, often the friends serve as colorful backdrop or "quirky" secondary characters who might be lucky enough to get their own books later.
Romances often feature friends but don't seem to give them much space, or at least not as much space as they might take up in real life. I mean, I don't only talk to my friends about my hero, you know? We dish about lots of stuff. Books, movies, actor-obsessions...but while that might be the stuff of friendship, it's not so much fodder for a romance novel.
I know there are stories out there about friends, interconnected tales or anthologies, but even in those stories each heroine is the star of her own tale and the secondary character in the others. The books are less about the friendships than the romances, which...duh...is why they ARE romances.
I guess I was thinking so much about this because my current work in progress features three couples -- but instead of the three heroines being friends, the three heroes are the ones buddying up. The women don't even know each other. And as I'm writing, I'm discovering the men's friendship and relationships with each other are as fascinating and important to me as how they find love with their respective heroines.
I'm really enjoying it.
Also, I'm watching Queer as Folk at the same time -- talk about FRIENDS! Man, those boys go through a lot with each other! :)
So, on the subject of friends, what stories have you enjoyed where the friendships played more than just a brief role? How important is it to you to see that the h/h have friends and how they interact with them?
M




















Gotta love friends!
Hi, Megan, I really enjoy stories where the friends play an important role, but sometimes it depends on the story whether or not that needs to be the case. For instance, I really enjoyed some of Debbie Macomber's books where they are romances but also really stories about the (in this case, women's) friendships--Thursdays at Eight, and the Blossom Street books. I think in these books, the stories are as much about the growth of the women's friendships as they are about their romantic relationships. I don't remember as many books where the men are friends--Rhonda Nelson has a trilogy where the men served together but don't show as much of their interacting with each other, and some of Lori Foster's connected stories are of brothers and their friends. I'd definitely be interested in reading more stories where the heroes are the friends, too. Overall, I enjoy seeing the couple's relationship develop in the context of their community, and showing their friendships gives a much richer sense of that.
Hi, Fedora...yeah, I think
Hi, Fedora...yeah, I think you're right -- when the friendships play a bigger role the books seem more women's fic than straight romance. Which makes sense (romance being about the romance, books focusing more on the friendships would be something else.)
I like knowing the couple HAS friends, first of all, or if not, why not, but the friends don't always get the spotlight in the way I know my own friends might play a bigger role in my life than they would if I were writing a book about what was going on.
M
Friends...
It's always a mixed bag for me. Sometimes I enjoy the friendships in books, as long as I don't think the friend scenes are "filler" or overshadowing the main storyline. I've read a few romances where the book seemed more about the friends than the couple.
My second book, About Last Night, was about 4 friends, and I actually wrote both of their romances in the book, more or less evenly, though there was one prominent couple. But many readers liked the other couple better. I'm never sure if that's a good thing or not, LOL.
I think friends in books are writer's tools (obviously real friends in life are a different matter) -- but they show readers who the main characters are, that people like them (important if you have an edgy character, the friend becomes the bridge for the reader -- if they like the protag, then there must be something likable about them, etc), and they also give our protags a life, and a place to reveal things that wouldn't be revealed otherwise. So we can't do without them, but sometimes I think some writers rely on them a little heavily.
I also find the male friendships sometimes more fascinating than the female ones, but maybe that's because I am more intrinsically familiar with female friendship.
All in all, though, I try to have friends have their own purpose in the book, they are usually subplot material with stories of their own, or I don't have them, or I put them in very lightly -- such as in Pick Me Up, there are some secondaries, but the heroine's best friend takes up less than ten pages of the book.
I guess that's more of a writer's perspective than a reader's... As a reader, I find friends more entertaining outside of romance fiction. In romance, I want the primary focus on the couple.
Sam
Good topic, Megan! I loved
Good topic, Megan! I loved Lisa Kleypas' Wallflower series, about four friends (actually, two of them are sisters)who descend on London, looking for husbands. But I find I'm really attracted to books that feature male friendships. Maybe it's because men have always been (and still are) so mysterious to me. I grew up with no brothers and our family is very matriarchal. My father was an authority figure, and I was painfully shy around the opposite sex; I was never the girl with lots of guy-pals. My husband tends to be a bit of a loner and although he has male friends, he doesn't have that close male bond with any of them. So when I find a book that features male friendships, like Suzanne Brockman's Troubleshooter series, I feel like I'm getting a sneak peek at how the other half lives, and I find it fascinating.
Thanks for the recs, Karen!
Thanks for the recs, Karen! I've heard a lot of great things about Lisa Kleypas, I'll have to check her out.
I have always had "guy" friends -- but no brothers...maybe they're my surrogate brothers?
M
Many of my best friends are
Many of my best friends are men. I have no idea why. I just connect with men and they connect with me. I guess that's why I did so well working in the mine. One thing I like about guys is that they don't try to spare your feelings unnecessarily. Not a lot of beating around the bush. I just feel more comfortable with their directness, I guess. I do enjoy my female friends, though. If it weren't for women, who would we talk about sex with? Guys don't talk about sex in the same way women do. Women spill. Guys don't.
I like men, generally. I
I like men, generally. I don't mean sexually (well I like them that way, too.) But I like to talk to them.
M
Not exactly friends but
Deborah Smith's books (which can be found in both Womens Lit and the Romance aisles) often feature a lot of family and friends.
Joshilyn Jackson writes the same way. There are always a lot of family and friends mixed up in the romance.
Hmmm, they're both Southern Women. I wonder if there is a connection.
And I remember About Last Night (Sam's book) well. I loved both couples in the story and even though I knew which was the main couple, I was rooting for the "secondary" couple just as much!
ani
Hmm...
I haven't heard about Joshilyn Jackson--I'll have to look up her books (I really like those family/friends stories). And I agree--I really liked both couples in About Last Night. That was a good book!
THE SOUTHERN CONNECTION...is
THE SOUTHERN CONNECTION...is it a conspiracy, ani?
:)
M
I enjoy a story where the
I enjoy a story where the H/H have friends. So often they evolve into another book I can read!
Good point, Estella!
Good point, Estella! Everyone has a shot at their own stories that way.
M
I think of romances as
I think of romances as relationship books, and how a person deals with other relationships in their lives outside their love interest can be very telling. It also makes the characters more fully realized and multi-dimensional to me. So I love to see the connections and complications that friends and family members bring into the story! I love to write about 'em, too. In fact, I think the only way to avoid that is to somewhat isolate your characters so they're cut off from friends, etc. in the course of the story. And that too is interesting. *g*
Charlene -- good points. I
Charlene -- good points. I read once somewhere about how romance heroines are so often orphans so it's easier to write about her without dealing with her family. But I think your family and friends are what MAKE you...I can't imagine my life without them or what they mean to me. So I have been writing about family and friends in my books.
M
I prefer them with friends and family!
I agree, Megan--the people are much more interesting and fully developed in context, so to speak. I generally prefer stories that include some of their community, and not just the hero and heroine freshly adrift.